When out isn't an option

Almost every company will tell you it’s inclusive. There’s a values page, a code of conduct, laws against discrimination, and then there’s the coffee machine, where you find out what people actually think. In a lot of workplaces nobody is visibly out. That tells you something, but not that there’s no one there. This episode is about what leaders can actually do when coming out doesn’t feel like an option: being inclusive without being intrusive, why “culture fit” can quietly mean “people like us,” the bias buddy every leader should have, and the one thing you could try at work next week. There’s a buffet metaphor in here about garlic bread that’s stuck with us.

Featuring Emma Birchall (she/her, Ericsson), who hosts this episode, with Marlena Sofia Rasmussen (Telenor, Denmark) and Karin Iannetta (Garnes Data, a Telia partner in Norway). Introduced by Yuki Morais (they/them, Nokia).